Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio

[guy.brown]

I realise I am probably going to be the only one here asking this
question but...

How do I upgrade my Squeezebox Radio to a UE SmartRadio? As in install
the new OS onto my existing SB Radio?

Guy


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[Grumpy Bob]

guy.brown wrote:
> I realise I am probably going to be the only one here asking this
> question but...
>
> How do I upgrade my Squeezebox Radio to a UE SmartRadio? As in install
> the new OS onto my existing SB Radio?
>
> Guy

I get the impression that at some point it may be offered as an option.
But Michael can probably advise more accurately.

Robert


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[bluegaspode]

The old instructions on the Wiki for some reason didn't work for me
(wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Custom.baby.version).

Here is how I installed UE on my bathroom Radio (at your own Risk -
Michael said right now there is now way back, didn't test that yet):


- download firmware from
http://update/firmware/10.0.0/baby_10.0.0_r16943.bin
- with winscp copy it to the Radio. Preferred to the folder /media on
the Radio.
For me this didn't work though, due to the limited space on the Radio.
But a trick will do: Copy the file to the folder /dev. It's a
different partition with enough room.
Then ssh into the Radio and create a symlink from /media to the /dev

Code:
--------------------

cd /media
ln -s /dev/baby_10.0.0_r16943.bin baby_10.0.0_r16943.bin

--------------------

- Now enter your Radios menu and go to Settings -> Advanced -> Update
firmware. You will get an option for version 10.0.0




After a reboot you will see the UE|Logitech boot screen, the a
'connection to uemedia.com' and finally a new menu.
Couldn't do a lot of tests, but first impression:


- it's now a blue menu instead of "teal", but that was said by
Michael already
- No forced login or creating of an account needed
- reordered menus: Internet Radio is now (almost at the top),
followed by "Music Services", only the we have "My Music".
- Browing into "My Music" automatically detects the UEMediaServer
installed on my Mac and I can browse my own music.
- Sync menu is still there under Settings (but we were told that
already)
- No way to activate remote access: so probably indeed no way back
right now :)


If we think of new unexperienced users - getting started is dead easy
is.


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[Mnyb]

bluegaspode wrote:
> The old instructions on the Wiki for some reason didn't work for me
> (wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Custom.baby.version).
>
> Here is how I installed UE on my bathroom Radio (at your own Risk -
> Michael said right now there is now way back, didn't test that yet):
>
> > > >
- download firmware from
> http://update/firmware/10.0.0/baby_10.0.0_r16943.bin
- with winscp copy it to the Radio. Preferred to the folder /media
> on the Radio.
> For me this didn't work though, due to the limited space on the
> Radio. But a trick will do: Copy the file to the folder /dev. It's a
> different partition with enough room.
> Then ssh into the Radio and create a symlink from /media to the
> /dev
> >
Code:
--------------------
> >
> cd /media
> ln -s /dev/baby_10.0.0_r16943.bin baby_10.0.0_r16943.bin
>
--------------------
> >
>
- Now enter your Radios menu and go to Settings -> Advanced ->
> Update firmware. You will get an option for version 10.0.0
>
> > >
>
>
> After a reboot you will see the UE|Logitech boot screen, the a
> 'connection to uemedia.com' and finally a new menu.
> Couldn't do a lot of tests (it's saturday, my wife wants to watch a
> film with me know :) ), but first impressions:
>
> > > >
- it's now a blue menu instead of "teal", but that was said by
> Michael already
- No forced login or creating of an account needed
- reordered menus: Internet Radio is now (almost at the top),
> followed by "Music Services", only the we have "My Music".
- Browing into "My Music" automatically detects the UEMediaServer
> installed on my Mac and I can browse my own music.
- Sync menu is still there under Settings (but we were told that
> already)
- No way to activate remote access: so probably indeed no way back
> right now :)
> > >
>
> If we think of new unexperienced users - getting started is dead easy
> now.
> For my bathroom, kids room and bedroom this UERadio would be all I
> need.

Brave move to test it out , maybe the option to revert to previous
working version can back you out of it ;)

A thing many people wants now is probably if the alarm code is improved,
that would win over many users to the concept .

No login ? does it imply that there is no website to log in to to manage
players in any way ? Just a backend service that works in the background
?

Then I wonder how many users that actually would notice that internet
access is needed to use local files ?


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[rbz5416]

I wonder in UEMediaServer can co-exist alongside SBS/LMS? Could finally
be a solution for a kid's own music library.


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[bluegaspode]

rbz5416 wrote:
> I wonder in UEMediaServer can co-exist alongside SBS/LMS on the same PC?
> Could finally be a solution for a kid's own music library.
On my Mac I have LMS and UEMediaServer running side by side. Will try on
my main Linux box as the next thing.
They changed all port numbers on UEMediaServer.

> No login ? does it imply that there is no website to log in to to manage
> players in any way ? Just a backend service that works in the background
> ?

Internet-Radio + Local Music works without account.
When you start to want to use services (i.e. Spotify) und you enter the
"Add Music Services" menu you are told to either download the Controller
App or to go to
uesmartradio.com (the new mysqueezebox.com).

I just went to the website and created an account - and for some reason
it automatically detected my Radio and connected it to the newly created
account. Wow.
Damn I didn't record the Javascripts used, they would have interested
me.
Now when I try to open a second fake account, it says I should be
entering the Settings menu on the Radio where I can create a Pin to
connect the Radio to my account.
Guess this is people will see, that got a Radio via Ebay and need to
move it from one to another account. Still dead easy and good
instructions that guide you through the process.

At this point I'm still impressed - someone did put some thoughts into
the procedure of slowly introducing new users and not overwhelming them
with stuff they probably won't need.

Now I also downloaded the iOS App - this one asks you about the account
as the very first thing.
Wow - this App has only one good looking screen (the starting one, with
the big tiles you can see in the AppStore pictures).
The rest of screens is plain ugly - at least they are functional and
easy to use.
Note to myself: still a market for third party devs, I actually like
this ;)

> Then I wonder how many users that actually would notice that internet
> access is needed to use local files ?
Probably noone in the beginning. Which is good in my opinion, as you
don't want to nag users with such minor details, when they start using
the device :)

> A thing many people wants now is probably if the alarm code is improved,
> that would win over many users to the concept .> > >
> > Looking into github: Felix started to revamp the alarm code completely 6
> > months ago. 10 changes following.
> > Two new developers adding changes in Juli + Aug.
> > see here:
> > https://github.com/Logitech/squeezeplay/commits/public/10.0/src/squeezeplay/share/applets/AlarmSnooze/AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua
> > I cannot say anything about the quality - but one can see that the alarm
> > was one topic they worked on.
> >
> > > > > > > Brave move to test it out , maybe the option to revert to previous
> > > working version can back you out of it> > > > > > >
> > > > Nah - not brave. My bathroom Radio actually only plays internet radio,
> > > > not much risk there :)
> > > > Did some more investigation and thanks to the sources available on
> > > > GitHub am a step further:
> > > >
> > > > See what I found in 'InputToActionMap.lua':
> > > > > > > >
Code:
--------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > [KEY_HOME | KEY_FWD] = "show_developer_menu",
> > > >
--------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > and in HomeMenu.lua
> > > > > > > >
Code:
--------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > if item.node == 'settings' and #Framework.windowStack == 2 then
> > > > appletManager:callService("developerModeSwitch", item)
> > > > end
> > > >
--------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > and in DeveloperApplet.lua
> > > > > > > >
Code:
--------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > self:loadDeveloperMenu()
> > > >
--------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tadaaaaa - translated: in the Settings menu press Home+Fwd and
> > > > you will get a new Developers menu ... where we can find the
> > > > menu for remote login again :D
> > > > OK - so we will be able to upload custom firmwares.
> > > >
> > > > I don't find a menu to load those uploaded firmwares though,
> > > > digging a bit deeper, I see they disabled the menu.
> > > > But the menu can be manually enabled again in
> > > > /usr/share/jive/applets/SetupFirmwareUpgradeMeta.lua, the line
> > > > to add the menu is commented out (but that is easily reverted).
> > > >
> > > > No time now to follow this route further - but with SSH access
> > > > and the old menu to start firmware upgrades, I'm confident that
> > > > I would be able to roll back if in need.
> > > > Anyone who knows how to SSH around the Radio should be able to
> > > > do so as well with the instructions here.


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[Mnyb]

bluegaspode wrote:
> On my Mac I have LMS and UEMediaServer running side by side. Will try on
> my main Linux box as the next thing.
> They changed all port numbers on UEMediaServer.
>
>
>
> Internet-Radio + Local Music works without account.
> When you start to want to use services (i.e. Spotify) und you enter the
> "Add Music Services" menu you are told to either download the Controller
> App or to go to
> uesmartradio.com (the new mysqueezebox.com).
>
> I just went to the website and created an account - and for some reason
> it automatically detected my Radio and connected it to the newly created
> account. Wow.
> Damn I didn't record the Javascripts used, they would have interested
> me.
> Now when I try to open a second fake account, it says I should be
> entering the Settings menu on the Radio where I can create a Pin to
> connect the Radio to my account.
> Guess this is what people will see, that got a Radio via Ebay and need
> to move it from one to another account. Still dead easy and good
> instructions that guide you through the process.
>
> At this point I'm still impressed - someone did put some thoughts into
> the procedure of slowly introducing new users and not overwhelming them
> with stuff they probably won't need.
>
> Now I also downloaded the iOS App - this one asks you about the account
> as the very first thing.
> Wow - this App has only one good looking screen (the starting one, with
> the big tiles you can see in the AppStore pictures).
> The rest of screens is plain ugly - at least they are functional and
> easy to use.
> Note to myself: still a market for third party devs, I actually like
> this ;)
>
>
> Probably noone in the beginning. Which is good in my opinion, as you
> don't want to nag users with such minor details, when they start using
> the device :)
>
>
> Looking into github: Felix started to revamp the alarm code completely 6
> months ago. 10 changes following.
> Two new developers adding changes in Juli + Aug.
> see here:
> https://github.com/Logitech/squeezeplay/commits/public/10.0/src/squeezeplay/share/applets/AlarmSnooze/AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua
> I cannot say anything about the quality - but one can see that the alarm
> was one topic they worked on.
>
>
> Nah - not brave. My bathroom Radio actually only plays internet radio,
> not much risk there. I expected the UERadio be able to do at least THAT
> :)
> Did some more investigation and thanks to the sources available on
> GitHub am a step further:
>
> See what I found in 'InputToActionMap.lua':
> >
Code:
--------------------
> >
> [KEY_HOME | KEY_FWD] = "show_developer_menu",
>
--------------------
> >
> and in HomeMenu.lua
> >
Code:
--------------------
> >
> if item.node == 'settings' and #Framework.windowStack == 2 then
> appletManager:callService("developerModeSwitch", item)
> end
>
--------------------
> >
> and in DeveloperApplet.lua
> >
Code:
--------------------
> >
> self:loadDeveloperMenu()
>
--------------------
> >
>
> Tadaaaaa - translated: in the Settings menu press Home+Fwd and you
> will get a new Developers menu ... where we can find the menu for
> remote login again .
> I'm connected to the UERadio via SSH right now, so will be able to
> upload (ye olde) custom firmwares.
>
> I don't find a menu to load those uploaded firmwares though, digging a
> bit deeper, I see they disabled the menu.
> But the menu can be manually enabled again in
> /usr/share/jive/applets/SetupFirmwareUpgradeMeta.lua, the line to add
> the menu is commented out (but that is easily reverted).
>
> No time now to follow this route further - but with SSH access and the
> old menu to start firmware upgrades, I'm confident that I would be
> able to roll back if in need.
> Anyone who knows how to SSH around the Radio should be able to do so
> as well with the instructions here.

Well excellent this makes it possible to turn an UE-Radio to a
Squeezebox radio :)

But the only way to find out was to use an original radio with ssh
enabled before the "upgrade" to UE


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[rbz5416]

bluegaspode wrote:
> On my Mac I have LMS and UEMediaServer running side by side. Thanks.


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[guy.brown]

I tried the instructions above but I am getting an update failed
message!

I SCP'd the bin file to the media folder (didn't complain about not
being enough room). Then went to the Radio and selected upgrade. There
were 2 options listed, v7 and v10. I selected v10, the screen showed to
downloading screen, followed by the installing screen, followed by the
update failed screen!

Any ideas?


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[bjevers]

Does anyone have a mirror for the firmware from post #3? The link
doesn't seem to be working.

Thanks...Brian


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[iconfessimageek]

http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/10.0.0/

should work!


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[iconfessimageek]

Just tried the upgrade (sorry, cross grade) and it works a treat.

I like it!


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[bjevers]

iconfessimageek wrote:
> http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/10.0.0/
>
> should work!


Thank you!


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[MinnySeminole]

I just thought I'd give you all a shout because I think I have a
"partial" solution to issues related to Squeezebox eliminating its
progression. Of course nothing is perfect, but I work in marketing for
a company creating products to do exactly what you loved about
squeezbox...and we're just getting off the ground with several products.
I know how passionate Squeezebox users are, our CTO was one and part of
how we began our development. Perhaps we can bridge a gap as Logitech
goes in a little bit of a direction.

We are VOCO, and We use a voice/touch interface on Android and Apple to
stream music and video throughout your home. We use squeezebox software
along with our own proprietary stuff on our back end. I think for many
it could be a pretty simple transition and We are just getting things
cranked up. visit us at myvoco.com. Any questions feel free to email
us. Things we can do to make your content life easier:

Stream from 4 places: iTunes/Computer, hardware has built in music
server for USB, iPod, mp3. Online music services, stream from
smartdevice
Use voice to access your content faster and simpler
Wireless config over home WiFi or Ethernet config
Solutions for existing stereo/powered speakers and single room speaker
solutions
Video Streaming: right now youtube, soon local digital collection, then
digital video services...
Each unit can be configured as WiFi hotspot to expand home WiFi network

There is other cool stuff, if you wanna take a look. Have a great day,
and Go Seminoles!


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[toby10]

Very interesting Minny. Are you saying that SqueezeBox hardware can
connect to your offered music services? If yes, will it work running
LMS?
Would SqueezeBox hardware players be able to connect directly to your
online server (no computer or LMS)?


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[gilbreen]

I ended up going back to the 7.7.2 firmware. I was experiencing a lot
of buffering with the new firmware. Not sure if it is my ISP connection
or the firmware but we'll see if the issue is better under the 7.7.2
firmware. Rolling back from the UE firmware as instructed in the thread
went without a hitch.


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[steinbch]

I logged in today and noticed that they now are offering the ability to
Update to the UE firmware directly from mysqueezebox.com. I didn't go
through with it because I was not happy with the way the UE firmware
worked when I upgraded myself. This is helpful for those of you who
were looking to 'update' without the hassle. I'm not sure there is
anything of real value yet to make anyone upgrade.


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[erland]

steinbch wrote:
> I logged in today and noticed that they now are offering the ability to
> Update to the UE firmware directly from mysqueezebox.com. I didn't go
> through with it because I was not happy with the way the UE firmware
> worked when I upgraded myself. This is helpful for those of you who
> were looking to 'update' without the hassle. I'm not sure there is
> anything of real value yet to make anyone upgrade.
>
For anyone that wants to upgrade, remember that the upgrade is easy but
if you later regret the decision I don't think there is an easy way to
go back.

To revert to Squeezebox Radio firmware if you have selected to upgrade
to UE Smart Radio firmware you have to activate the development menu and
use a SSH client as described previously in this thread. However, I've
no idea if this even works when doing the official upgrade, because if
you have selected to upgrade the official way your Radio might be marked
on mysqueezebox.com as one that should be upgraded, so there is a risk
it will upgrade to UE Smart Radio again immediately after you have
downgraded it. If someone has decided to permanently upgrade to UE Smart
Radio, or if anyone from Logitech still reads this thread, it would be
great to get a confirmation if the manual downgrade still works after
you have used the upgrade button now available on mysqueezebox.com.
Hopefully you can still do it by removing the device on
mysqueezebox.com, but it would be great to get this confirmed if someone
is willing to try it.


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[dwong]

This is Dudley from the Logitech UE product team. Please see my post
today in the General Discussion section on how to update your Squeezebox
Radio to Smart Radio.


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[gilbreen]

For those that are curious, I have been able to upgrade my SB Radio to
the UE Radio and then back again to an SB Radio.

I had previously upgraded to the UE Radio firmware manually last week
using the steps in this thread. I then changed it back to the SB Radio
firmware last Friday as noted in this thread.

This is the only SB Radio I own so I thought no harm in trying the
process and seeing if I could reverse it for curiosity's sake. Worse
case, I ended up with a UE Radio but such was not the case.

Steps I took:

- Logged into mysqueezebox.com account and chose the 'Update to UE Smart
Radio' option under the Player section.
- A new menu option appeared on the main SB Radio screen - 'Update to UE
Smart Radio'
- From the new menu, I selected 'Continue'
- From the subsequent menu, I selected 'Begin update (10.0.0 r16943)
- I let the update download and install onto my radio
- Once the update was finished, mysqueezebox.com said my radio was now
updated and I needed to access it via the uesmartradio.com website
- I enabled the Developer menu ( in the Settings menu press Home+Fwd and
you will get a new Developers menu ) from this thread
- I enabled SSH access again via the Remote Login menu
- Rebooted the radio
- In order to allow the Software Update to again function, I had to ssh
into the radio and change the SetupFirmwareUpgradeMeta.lua file to allow
the menu to show (again as stated in this thread)
- Via scp, I uploaded the old firmware (baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin) to the
/dev folder.
- Via ssh, I created a symlink in the /media folder
- Rebooted the radio
- On the radio, I chose 'Software Update' from the Advanced menu and it
showed the baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin as the available firmware (first time I
tried, it said that the update failed. I ssh'd in and noticed the
firmware in the /dev folder was gone so I uploaded it again, rebooted
again and was able to apply the firmware)
- The firmware installed and the radio rebooted and the radio was again
an SB Radio

One caveat, once I rebooted and was back at an SB radio, when I logged
into mysqueezebox.com, I got a message stating that my radio had been
upgraded and I had to use uesmartradio.com to manage it. For kicks and
giggles, I did a factory reset on the radio, and was again able to add
it to my mysqueezebox.com account and am now controlling it as before.

I may have forgotten a step but everything I did was from this thread (I
have little to no Unix experience) and as an aside, this was all done
from a Mac using Terminal.

Hope this helps others who are thinking of doing it.

Good luck!


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[erland]

gilbreen wrote:
>
> One caveat, once I rebooted and was back at an SB radio, when I logged
> into mysqueezebox.com, I got a message stating that my radio had been
> upgraded and I had to use uesmartradio.com to manage it. For kicks and
> giggles, I did a factory reset on the radio, and was again able to add
> it to my mysqueezebox.com account and am now controlling it as before.
>
> I may have forgotten a step but everything I did was from this thread (I
> have little to no Unix experience) and as an aside, this was all done
> from a Mac using Terminal.
>
> Hope this helps others who are thinking of doing it.
>
Thanks, it was this last part I was worried about, it's great to see
that a factory reset solves it.


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[Ikabob]

Sounds complicated to me but it's good that you have found a way to
reverse the UE "upgrade" on an SBRadio.

More importantly (IMO), can a newly purchased UERadio be "downgraded" to
the more functional SBRadio? Wouldn't that be more applicable for adding
the new UE devices to an existing Squeezebox audio system (sync, etc)?


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[pippin]

This is interesting:
Logitech support sends out e-mails where they claim you can simply go
back by doing a factory reset, the holding "<<" (not back, the rewind
button) while it boots and then selecting the SB firmware.

I tried it and it doesn't work for me but then I updated my radio
manually to the first available FW and have seen updates since then, so
this might be different if you update through MySB now.
Has anybody else heard of this procedure and did it work for someone?


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[Michael Herger]

> This is interesting:
> Logitech support sends out e-mails where they claim you can simply go
> back by doing a factory reset, the holding "<<" (not back, the rewind
> button) while it boots and then selecting the SB firmware.

The most interesting part about this is the fact that support knows about
it :-).

This way of getting back to the last installed firmware has been there
(and documented on the wiki afaik) ever since the Controller. Buttons have
changed, but it's been a life saver for many of us... Which also means
that once you've updated from one UE firmware to a more recent UE
firmware, the SB firmware is gone. Only one previous copy survives.

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Michael

[erland]

pippin wrote:
> This is interesting:
> Logitech support sends out e-mails where they claim you can simply go
> back by doing a factory reset, the holding "<<" (not back, the rewind
> button) while it boots and then selecting the SB firmware.
>
> I tried it and it doesn't work for me but then I updated my radio
> manually to the first available FW and have seen updates since then, so
> this might be different if you update through MySB now.
> Has anybody else heard of this procedure and did it work for someone?
>
I tried this a bit.

Holding << immediately after selecting Factory reset menu doesn't help.

However, turn it off and then hold << while power it on will revert the
firmware to the previously installed version. As long as you haven't
upgraded the UE Smart Radio firmare after you initially switched to it,
this will return it to the Squeezebox firmware. After returning to
Squeezebox firmware a reboot will turn it back to UE Smart Radio, so
while it's using Squeezebox firmware you need to do something to make it
stick. I did a firmware upgrade to the same version already installed
and that made it stick when I rebooted it next time, I guess there is
probably some hidden keyboard command to make it stick without having to
do a firmware upgrade.

On mysqueezebox.com it works like this.
- When you have selected to upgarde to UE Smart Radio a new menu will
appear on the Squeezebox which you need to select to upgrade.
- After upgrading there is no way to access any settings on
mysqueezebox.com.
- If you rollback the firmware as described above, to turn it into a
Squeezebox, you can access its setting on mysqueezebox.com again (after
a factory reset) and cancel the upgrade to UE Smart Radio and this will
also make the "Upgrade to UE Smart Radio" menu item disappear from the
Squeezebox screen again.

So to sum it up, the << operation will work for now, but if you stay on
UE Smart Radio for a while so Logitech publish a new firmware version
which you upgrade to, I believe you will have to use the manual method
to get back to Squeezebox firmware. I can confirm that the manual method
works, just tried it in my own setup.

Hopefully Logitech realize that a geeky solution like the above won't
work for normal users and soon publish a better solution for people that
regret the UE Smart Radio "upgrade".


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[Frank Black]

Hi everyone

I wonder if someone can help. When i had the SBP i had an issue where i
had to log mysquuezebox.com for my radio and then LMs for my music.
Couldn't figure it out so when the upgrade came along i thought it
would solve my problem. Now the radio works but when i go to play my
music it sees the music but wont play them. Any ideas? Is it worth doing
the workaround to go back to SBP?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks


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[toby10]

Frank,
You did install the new UE server software to play your local music?
You can't use LMS server with UE players.


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[Frank Black]

toby10 wrote:
> Frank,
> You did install the new UE server software to play your local music?
> You can't use LMS server with UE players.

Yup.. UE Music Library.


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[Michael Herger]

> would solve my problem. Now the radio works but when i go to play my
> music it sees the music but wont play them. Any ideas? Is it worth doing
> the workaround to go back to SBP?

How are you controlling your radio? If using a mobile phone, would the
same happen if you tried to play from the device itself? What file formats?

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[rsccnv]

pippin wrote:
> This is interesting:
> Logitech support sends out e-mails where they claim you can simply go
> back by doing a factory reset, the holding "<<" (not back, the rewind
> button) while it boots and then selecting the SB firmware.
>
> I tried it and it doesn't work for me but then I updated my radio
> manually to the first available FW and have seen updates since then, so
> this might be different if you update through MySB now.
> Has anybody else heard of this procedure and did it work for someone?

I went through this as well. I found that disconnecting the power cord
(not just shutting the radio off) was the key for me. Then, hold the
<<Rewind button while reconnecting the power cord. You'll be holding the
rewind button for a couple of minutes during the start up but then you
will see the old Squeezebox screen. You can then follow the other
instructions in this thread to make the rollback stick. (I don't have a
battery in my Squeezebox. If you have a battery, you might need to
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[Mnyb]

rsccnv wrote:
> I went through this as well. I found that disconnecting the power cord
> (not just shutting the radio off) was the key for me. Then, hold the
> <<Rewind button while reconnecting the power cord. You'll be holding the
> rewind button for a couple of minutes during the start up but then you
> will see the old Squeezebox screen. You can then follow the other
> instructions in this thread to make the rollback stick. (I don't have a
> battery in my Squeezebox. If you have a battery, you might need to
> disconnect that as well.)

Radio has two kinds of off , a short clicks really just sleeps it a long
press on the power button makes it go truly (almost ) off ,you se the
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[chill]

Ikabob wrote:
> Sounds complicated to me but it's good that you have found a way to
> reverse the UE "upgrade" on an SBRadio.
>
> More importantly (IMO), can a newly purchased UERadio be "downgraded" to
> the more functional SBRadio? Wouldn't that be more applicable for adding
> the new UE devices to an existing Squeezebox audio system (sync, etc)?

I asked the same question in a different thread
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97242-Updating-Squeezebox-Radio-to-Smart-Radio&p=725422&viewfull=1#post725422)
and Erland correctly pointed out that manually loading the Squeezebox
Radio firmware into Smart Radio hardware might conceivably stop the
Smart Radio booting up. However, I wonder if this "<< + power up"
feature might give some protection against this. Does this same
procedure work on Smart Radio hardware, so that if the Squeezebox Radio
firmware totally broke the Smart Radio it could still be restarted with
the previously working Smart Radio firmware?

It's going to need someone with more disposable income than me to test
this :)


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[Theodor]

Hello same problem overhere , cant get the old firmware back.
It's Always loading the new firmware.
Mi eyes are not that good anymore so a used big font on mi pc to control
the radio.
Please help logitech the radio is now useless for me...


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[franjo]

Having 2 radios, 1 updated to ue smart radio, the other original
squeezebox . The new menus work great .
Lets see if there is a difference in server reliability.

Very inconvenient: there is no way to change the order of the favorites.

Maybe with a smartphone this will work but not with the webinterface
like on mysqueezebox.com.
For me it is mainly a radio to listen to radio stations. Why did
logitech ommit this usefull feauture ???


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[erland]

franjo wrote:
>
> Very inconvenient: there is no way to change the order of the favorites.
>
>
> Maybe with a smartphone this will work but not with the webinterface
> like on mysqueezebox.com.
>
It's not possible using the smart phone app for iPad/iPhone as far as I
can see.
I guess you will just have to make sure you add the favorites for the
most important stuff first so they appear at the top.
If you discover something interesting later, you can always delete all
favorites and re-add them in the correct order afterwards. Yes, I know
it's silly, but that's the way we have to handle it at the moment.

franjo wrote:
>
> For me it is mainly a radio to listen to radio stations. Why did
> logitech ommit this usefull feauture ???
>
Generally it sounds like you are the perfect UE Smart Radio user, I
believe the UE Smart Radio is focused on people who mostly listen to
internet radio.
I guess Logitech just removed the web interface for management of
favorites and when they did this they didn't realize that they also lost
the reordering functionality, hopefully this will be corrected in a
future version of the firmware, smart phone app or uesmartradio.com web
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[erland]

Theodor wrote:
> Hello same problem overhere , cant get the old firmware back.
> It's Always loading the new firmware.
> Mi eyes are not that good anymore so a used big font on mi pc to control
> the radio.
> Please help logitech the radio is now useless for me...
>
If you want help from Logitech you need to contact Logitech support,
there is a link at the top of this web page. Logitech employees doesn't
read this community forum.

If you want to try to do it yourself, the following process worked for
me:
1. Turn off the Squeezebox
2. Hold the << (REW) button on the Squeezebox while powering it on (not
the "right arrow" button, the "rewind" button)
3. The Squeezebox now starts with the previous firmware, but you need to
do the following steps to make it stick that way.
4. Select to make a software update in Settings/Advanced/Software Update
menu (Might be easier way to do this, but I've found that a software
update will make the firmware stick the next time your restart the
device)
5. After the software update, do a factory reset in
Settings/Advanced/Restore Factory Settings menu
6. Goto mysqueezebox.com and select ot cancel the UE Smart Radio update
on the player settings page

This process only works as long as you haven't upgraded the UE Smart
Radio firmware after you first upgraded to UE Smart Radio, the reason
for this is that the operation in point 2 reverts to the previous
firmware and if the previous firmware is UE Smart Radio the following
steps in the process will obviously not work. If point 2 doesn't work,
it's best that you contact Logitech support. There is a manual way to do
it through SSH and editing a text file with the Linux vi text editor,
but I can only recommend that for people who is familiar both with ssh
and vi.


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[scrat43]

Remove battery pull the cord hold << put in the power-cord release <<
Wait to boot it go back to the Squeeze box software.
I done it yesterday and it works.

Regards Scrat.


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[TopGeek]

Sick of the drop-outs, loss of the server for days at a time and
irregular alarm performance, I took the update path (not upgrade) this
evening and found it very easy and satisfying. Apart from the new style
user interface and slightly different menus, after reinstalling my
presets and alarms, performance seems much the same.
As I never used LMS anyway and only ever used the SBR as a bedside
radio/alarm this update is academic and, if the online stories are to be
believed, the UER should provide better overall reliability. Only time
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bluegaspode wrote:
>
> No time now to follow this route further - but with SSH access and the
> old menu to start firmware upgrades, I'm confident that I would be able
> to roll back if in need.
>

yes the rollback works without problems after activating the old update
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[onlyconnect]

bluegaspode wrote:
> Tadaaaaa - translated: in the Settings menu press Home+Fwd and you will
> get a new Developers menu ... where we can find the menu for remote
> login again :D.

Many thanks, works great! Wish I'd known this when I was troubleshooting
non-playing.

Tim


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Is your alarm clock working after flashing with the new firmware?


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[HeadBanger]

If I have understood correctly the new UE Radio has to be connected to
the internet where a clould based server will effectively run it. So if
you have no internet connection it will not play any music period -
local or otherwise. Is this correct?

I live in a semi-rural area and our internet service is pretty poor as
we are miles from the exchange. Our service is often knocked out;
sometimes for days at a time so I certainly won't be downgrading my SB
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[erland]

HeadBanger wrote:
> If I have understood correctly the new UE Radio has to be connected to
> the internet where a clould based server will effectively run it. So if
> you have no internet connection it will not play any music period -
> local or otherwise. Is this correct?
>
Yes, that's the case in the current firmware version.
This is of course just a software limitation so if it causes a lot
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[bjevers]

I just discovered a problem with my upgraded Squeezebox to UE Radio.
Whenever I stream any of My Music it plays for about 30-45 seconds, then
skips a little, then stops and the radio reboots. Happens on both MP3's
and FLAC files. I am using the firmware linked in this thread and I am
using the following service on my ReadyNAS Ultra 4:
uemusiclibrary-10.0.1-1346847842-i386-readynas. Is anyone else having
trouble streaming music from their library? Just wondering if it's the
radio firmware or the server software.

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[toby10]

Mnyb wrote:
> ..... No login ? does it imply that there is no website to log in to to
> manage players in any way ? Just a backend service that works in the
> background ?.......

Yes, there is online web UI account management of both players and music
library location, but very simplistic. They have also reverted back to
the PIN concept used in the old SqueezeNetwork days. Whether the PIN is
just for beta I dunno.

I'd guess the Radio firmware update from SB to UE would be a totally
separate offered menu item with very clear warnings and probably an "are
you sure??" pop up. Michael H has already mentioned the very clear menu
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[Hugo_NAS]

toby10 wrote:
> Yes, there is online web UI account management of both players and music
> library location, but very simplistic. They have also reverted back to
> the PIN concept used in the old SqueezeNetwork days. Whether the PIN is
> just for beta I dunno.
>
> I'd guess the Radio firmware update from SB to UE would be a totally
> separate offered menu item with very clear warnings and probably an "are
> you sure??" pop up. Michael H has already mentioned the very clear menu
> warning for such an update as there is no easy way back to SB firmware.


I'm vaguely curious .. I won't be doing any upgrades as I have a Touch
and Classic as well as a Radio, and while i'm a very technical person, I
still find the LMS system a bit 'clunky' - it could be better in many
ways - e.g. creating playlists is hard work - can we have a screen shot
of the new website please? Although I believe that there will be no
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[castalla]

Hugo_NAS wrote:
> I'm vaguely curious .. I won't be doing any upgrades as I have a Touch
> and Classic as well as a Radio, and while i'm a very technical person, I
> still find the LMS system a bit 'clunky' - it could be better in many
> ways - e.g. creating playlists is hard work - can we have a screen shot
> of the new website please? Although I believe that there will be no
> local website - so I won't be able to create playlists that way anyways?

One feature which I guess is missing is the abiity to control the Radio
from the Touch - I use this a lot, so I guess I won't be up/downgrading
my Radio!

I revere my squeezeboxes - definitely the best devices I've ever bought
(maybe only equalled by the amazing Raspberry Pi),

Try messing with the dreadful WD TV smp, and the Roku Holy Bible box and
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[Michael Herger]

> Yes, there is online web UI account management of both players and music
> library location, but very simplistic. They have also reverted back to
> the PIN concept used in the old SqueezeNetwork days. Whether the PIN is
> just for beta I dunno.

The PIN is only a fallback method if your player can't be assigned to your
account automatically during account creation, or semi-automatically
afterwards: A message "Do you want to add this player to your account"
should be shown on your radio. Under certain circumstances this discovery
can fail (eg. your mobile phone is not on your wlan, but 3G), in which
case you'll have to use the pin to do the pairing.

> I'd guess the Radio firmware update from SB to UE would be a totally
> separate offered menu item with very clear warnings and probably an "are
> you sure??" pop up.

Yes. Current plan is to have you check a checkbox on mysb.com after
reading all the warnings. Then you'll get options to run the actual update.

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[majones]

It's not correct to refer this as an Upgrade. It's a Dumbgrade.


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[rcampbel3]

majones wrote:
> It's not correct to refer this as an Upgrade. It's a Dumbgrade.

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[pippin]

Well, after having played around with it a bit and letting aside how
much is missing that I definitely need for an everyday system, I _do_
have to say that the basic idea behind the change, which is to not have
to switch servers and control it in one place _does_ have it's merits.
You can actually build a current playlist containing tracks from several
servers, and that even works if your server is only temporarily
available, like a PC.

_If_ they would manage to make it more reliable (something where they'd
have to work with my ISP and my electrician since my problem is a bad
internet connection) and bring back the flexibility the old Squeezebox
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[Mnyb]

pippin wrote:
> Well, after having played around with it a bit and letting aside how
> much is missing that I definitely need for an everyday system, I _do_
> have to say that the basic idea behind the change, which is to not have
> to switch servers and control it in one place _does_ have it's merits.
> You can actually build a current playlist containing tracks from several
> servers, and that even works if your server is only temporarily
> available, like a PC.
>
> _If_ they would manage to make it more reliable (something where they'd
> have to work with my ISP and my electrician since my problem is a bad
> internet connection) and bring back the flexibility the old Squeezebox
> system had, I would actually quite like this.

..like a choice of where the controll piont should be for example making
one of the local UE servers the master ,but let it seamlessly slip over
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[erland]

pippin wrote:
> Well, after having played around with it a bit and letting aside how
> much is missing that I definitely need for an everyday system, I _do_
> have to say that the basic idea behind the change, which is to not have
> to switch servers and control it in one place _does_ have it's merits.
>
+1

pippin wrote:
>
> You can actually build a current playlist containing tracks from several
> servers, and that even works if your server is only temporarily
> available, like a PC.
>
I just wish there was a way to view the current playlist you are
building, that's not possible in the UE Smart Radio iPhone app from
Logitech at the moment as far as I've seen. It's possible to view it on
the UE Smart Radio display but I'm not using the UE Smart Radio on
device controls when building a playlist, way to hard to search and
browse through a big library or streaming service using those. Also,
after you have built the playlist, there is no way to save it, neither
on the UE Smart Radio directly nor through the iPhone app. Hopefully
this is something they are working on but I didn't get that feeling
based on the answers I got in the Beta section of the forum yesterday.

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[Michael Herger]

> I just wish there was a way to view the current playlist you are
> building, that's not possible in the UE Smart Radio iPhone app from
> Logitech at the moment as far as I've seen. It's possible to view it on

If we don't add it by v3.9.29 (v1.0.2 is in the store now), then I'm sure
some 3rd party will fill the gap ;-).

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Michael

[pippin]

Works for me. Time zone CEST


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erland wrote:
> So playlist management takes a big step back IMHO.Quite an achievement given how crap it was to start with...


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rcampbel3 wrote:
> I believe the accurate term is crossgrade...
Judging by the general response on this forum, it's a
verycrossindeedgrade.


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[dnglbr]

I've gone ahead with the "crossgrade", and I have to say I really like
the simplified interface.

I am having an issue though with the alarm clock. It's completely
broken, doesn't ever go off. As soon as I upgraded I did a factory reset
to start clean, so broken settings carried over from the old version
cannot be the issue.

Is anyone else exhibiting issues on this firmware with the alarm? Could
this be an issue with the time zone setting? The device clock is set
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[Michael Herger]

> I've gone ahead with the "crossgrade", and I have to say I really like
> the simplified interface.

How did you update?

> I am having an issue though with the alarm clock. It's completely
> broken, doesn't ever go off.

That's bad. Is the clock displaying ok when off?

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Michael

[dnglbr]

mherger wrote:
>
> How did you update?
>
Using bluegaspode's method from this post:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96256-Upgrade-SB-Radio-to-UE-Radio&p=715276&viewfull=1#post715276

While I know jack nothing about the Squeezebox OS unfortunately, I do
have experience with Unix systems so I felt confident to go ahead with
it. I had to put the file in /dev as well in order to get it to work.

mherger wrote:
>
> That's bad. Is the clock displaying ok when off?
>
Clock is displaying perfectly fine, the system as a whole is working
perfectly fine. Overall I'm very happy with this "crossgrade", but
without a functioning alarm clock it's a real bust.

I am in EST so I have to change the setting after a factory reset, I
doubt that has to do with it...

I've tried one-time alarm, repeating alarm, whatever you want alarm, it
just doesn't go.

One odd thing I've noticed is that after setting the alarm times, they
show up in the list in 24-hour format even though my system is set to
12-hour format. As in setting 6:00pm will show up as 18:00 for some
reason. Not sure if this was expected behaviour, or if this was the same
with the original firmware. Will try to screw around with some settings
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[dnglbr]

dnglbr wrote:
> Using bluegaspode's method from this post:
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96256-Upgrade-SB-Radio-to-UE-Radio&p=715276&viewfull=1#post715276
>
> While I know jack nothing about the Squeezebox OS unfortunately, I do
> have experience with Unix systems so I felt confident to go ahead with
> it. I had to put the file in /dev as well in order to get it to work.
>
>
> Clock is displaying perfectly fine, the system as a whole is working
> perfectly fine. Overall I'm very happy with this "crossgrade", but
> without a functioning alarm clock it's a real bust.
>
> I am in EST so I have to change the setting after a factory reset, I
> doubt that has to do with it...
>
> I've tried one-time alarm, repeating alarm, whatever you want alarm, it
> just doesn't go.
>
> One odd thing I've noticed is that after setting the alarm times, they
> show up in the list in 24-hour format even though my system is set to
> 12-hour format. As in setting 6:00pm will show up as 18:00 for some
> reason. Not sure if this was expected behaviour, or if this was the same
> with the original firmware. Will try to screw around with some settings
> to see if it corrects the issue.
Figured it out.

Had something to do with the time zone setting. The setting on the
device was different than the one uesmartradio.com was showing. And
trying to change it again on the device would not make the website
"take" the new setting, it was still defaulting to something else.

Changed the setting manually through the web interface, alarm clock
works again. Sweet.


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[steinbch]

Has anyone noticed that alarms don't have a snooze option anymore with
the UE firmware? I'm not sure what may be happening, but my alarms no
longer show an alarm menu when the alarm goes off...at alarm time the
radio will just turn on and play whatever sound I've chosen. When I go
to snooze by pushing the wheel, it just brings up the standard play menu
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[BryanLyle]

So, once you've updated the firmware, how do you add a music service to
the home screen of the squeezebox?

I can use the different services if I use my iPhone as the controller,
but I can't figure out a way to add the services to my home screen.


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[toby10]

Tried logging in to your UE online account and adding/configuring your
Apps from that web UI?


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Yes. Everything is set up on the website.


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[toby10]

I don't use UE so I'm taking stabs in the dark here with only a SB
background.

Is there no My Apps (or similar) on the Home menu?
I'd also check to make sure your UE Radio has the same and correct
UESmartRadio.com login info you enter on the web site.
Does UE online show your player as connected?


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[onlyconnect]

BryanLyle wrote:
> So, once you've updated the firmware, how do you add a music service to
> the home screen of the squeezebox?
>
> I can use the different services if I use my iPhone as the controller,
> but I can't figure out a way to add the services to my home screen.
>
> Clicking the Add Music Service option on the Squeezebox just directs me
> to go to uesmartradio.com or download the app for my phone.

If you add the services to your account with the app or online, they
appear automatically on the home screen, as I understand it. This is how
it worked for me.

Tim


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onlyconnect wrote:
> If you add the services to your account with the app or online, they
> appear automatically on the home screen, as I understand it. This is how
> it worked for me.
>
> Tim

Turned the radio on this AM and they were there. It just didn't happen
immediately for me. All set now.


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[onlyconnect]

steinbch wrote:
> Has anyone noticed that alarms don't have a snooze option anymore with
> the UE firmware? I'm not sure what may be happening, but my alarms no
> longer show an alarm menu when the alarm goes off...at alarm time the
> radio will just turn on and play whatever sound I've chosen. When I go
> to snooze by pushing the wheel, it just brings up the standard play menu
> options.

When the alarm fires I get options for Snooze or Turn off alarm. If I
hit Snooze the music stops and I presume restarts later, just testing it
:-)

Tim


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[steinbch]

onlyconnect wrote:
> When the alarm fires I get options for Snooze or Turn off alarm. If I
> hit Snooze the music stops and I presume restarts later, just testing it
> :-)
>
> Tim

That's what used to happen and does happen when I set an immediate
alarm. However, for alarms that I use in the morning it doesn't offer
those options (and I'm not just too tired).

I wonder if it has to do with the fact that I'm using the sleep timer
before I go to bed? Has anyone used a sleep timer and then still had the
alarm work properly in the morning?


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[gly]

HELLO
I have 3 questions about this new firmware ...
-is he Logitech remte control purchased in accessory still working?
-can we always listen to podcast? the podcast applcation seems to have
disappeared?
-can we always display the local weather as a screensaver


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[steinbch]

steinbch wrote:
> That's what used to happen and does happen when I set an immediate
> alarm. However, for alarms that I use in the morning it doesn't offer
> those options (and I'm not just too tired).
>
> I wonder if it has to do with the fact that I'm using the sleep timer
> before I go to bed? Has anyone used a sleep timer and then still had the
> alarm work properly in the morning?

Ultimately had to do a complete factory restore and restore default
settings. Now the alarm is working correctly, with a snooze button.
Unfortunately, when I reset the settings, it got rid of the setting from
its days as a Squeezebox that assigned the sleep function to the mute
button. Argh! Looks like I'm going to try and restore the radio back
to the Squeezebox firmware so that I can have both an easy way to sleep
(you can't even assign the sleep function to the main menu with the UE
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[CoolRaoul]

steinbch wrote:
> Looks like I'm going to try and restore the radio back to the
> Squeezebox firmware.


If you're able to find the procedure, please tell us here: I would be
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[steinbch]

CoolRaoul wrote:
> If you're able to find the procedure, please tell us here: I would be
> interested to do it too

Well, that might take a little bit of time. I have run into a couple of
problems...

- I'm on a Mac and I'm learning to use Terminal as I go (to SSH)

- Even with the developer's menu, there isn't an option to update the
firmware on the radio. That parts tricky...

- Though, someone mentioned earlier in the thread about being able to
uncomment certain files to enable menu options. If this is the case, I
might be able to reinstate the old beta option that let you assign
functions (such as sleep) to different buttons...this would be the ideal
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[bluegaspode]

steinbch wrote:
>
> - Though, someone mentioned earlier in the thread about being able to
> uncomment certain files to enable menu options. If this is the case, I
> might be able to reinstate the old beta option that let you assign
> functions (such as sleep) to different buttons...this would be the ideal
> solution!

To be more specific than before:
On the device there is the file
/usr/share/jive/applets/SetupFirmwareUpgradeMeta.lua

this one can be changed via WinSCP.
There is the line


Code:
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-- jiveMain:addItem(meta:menuItem('appletSetupFirmwareUpgrade', 'advancedSettings', "UPDATE", function(applet) applet:showFirmwareUpgradeMenu() end, 115))

--------------------


the two minus signs need to be removed to enable the line and to add the
menu.
After that a reboot is needed.


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[steinbch]

bluegaspode wrote:
> To be more specific than before:
> On the device there is the file
> /usr/share/jive/applets/SetupFirmwareUpgradeMeta.lua
>
> this one can be changed via WinSCP.
> There is the line
>
> >
Code:
--------------------
> >
> -- jiveMain:addItem(meta:menuItem('appletSetupFirmwareUpgrade', 'advancedSettings', "UPDATE", function(applet) applet:showFirmwareUpgradeMenu() end, 115))
>
--------------------
> >
>
> the two minus signs need to be removed to enable the line and to add
> the menu.
> After that a reboot is needed.

Thanks bluegaspode!

On a side note, do you know if there is a way to enable the old beta
menu feature that let you assign functions to a specific button (sleep
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[bluegaspode]

steinbch wrote:
> Thanks bluegaspode!
>
> On a side note, do you know if there is a way to enable the old beta
> menu feature that let you assign functions to a specific button (sleep
> timer on the mute button).

No - I didn't look further into the code.
I'm pretty sure it can be tweaked - I mean in the end one just needs to
readd the code that has been removed ;)


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[steinbch]

bluegaspode wrote:
> No - I didn't look further into the code.
> I'm pretty sure it can be tweaked - I mean in the end one just needs to
> readd the code that has been removed ;)

So I've found the Shortcuts folder and the ShortcutsMeta.lua file. It
isn't commented out, but it references the AdvancedSettingsBetaFeatures
menu that doesn't exist. I tried to set it to just AdvancedSettings
instead, but that didn't get me anywhere. Hmm...

Will keep playing


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[steinbch]

Woohoo! Figured it out!

Apparently the Shortcuts menu is active (though you are unable to see
it). This means that the settings are also active. I went in and
edited the settings and set the mute button to be sleep. Restart and
Boom!

Here's the SSH commands I used:

First download the ShortcutsMeta.lua file (it downloaded to my Home
directory on OSX):
scp root-Uj7+***@public.gmane.org:/usr/share/jive/applets/Shortcuts/ShortcutsMeta.lua
~/ShortcutsMeta.lua

Then edit the ShortcutsMeta.lua file using textedit...I went to the
lines with [KEY_MUTE] and put sleep in the quotation marks (for both
press and hold)

Then I uploaded the ShortcutsMeta.lua file back to the Squeezebox:
scp ~/ShortcutsMeta.lua
root-Uj7+***@public.gmane.org:/usr/share/jive/applets/Shortcuts/ShortcutsMeta.lua

So excited!!!


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[gilbreen]

I upgraded to the UE firmware. It is working for me without issue.
However, as a lifeline, I wanted to add back the Firmware Upgrade option
just in case.

I was able to successfully to change the file, as noted by bluegaspode,
by removing the two minus signs in the file using Terminal in Mac OS X.
However, upon rebooting, when I go to the Advanced menu, there is no
option for Firmware Upgrade. All I have listed is:

- Generate PIN
- Diagnostics
- Networking
- Software Update
- Factory Reset
- Restore Defaults

Am I in the right menu area or am looking in the wrong spot?

Thanks for all the great postings and information.


bluegaspode wrote:
> To be more specific than before:
> On the device there is the file
> /usr/share/jive/applets/SetupFirmwareUpgradeMeta.lua
>
> this one can be changed via WinSCP.
> There is the line
>
> >
Code:
--------------------
> >
> -- jiveMain:addItem(meta:menuItem('appletSetupFirmwareUpgrade', 'advancedSettings', "UPDATE", function(applet) applet:showFirmwareUpgradeMenu() end, 115))
>
--------------------
> >
>
> the two minus signs need to be removed to enable the line and to add
> the menu.
> After that a reboot is needed.


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[bluegaspode]

What about
gilbreen wrote:
>
> - Software Update
>


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[gilbreen]

Didn't realize that was it.

When I select it, it shows:

- Cancel
- Help

Perhaps one has to upload the firmware manually to the device first? I
just got the device so forgive me for my rudimentary understanding.

bluegaspode wrote:
> What about
>
> :D


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[Mnyb]

CoolRaoul wrote:
> If you're able to find the procedure, please tell us here: I would be
> interested to do it too

+1

Yes you are officially not supposed to be able to do this :) it's a one
way "upgrade".

Please tell if you find out .


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[ButC]

steinbch wrote:
> Ultimately had to do a complete factory restore and restore default
> settings. Now the alarm is working correctly, with a snooze button.
> Unfortunately, when I reset the settings, it got rid of the setting from
> its days as a Squeezebox that assigned the sleep function to the mute
> button. Argh! Looks like I'm going to try and restore the radio back
> to the Squeezebox firmware so that I can have both an easy way to sleep
> (you can't even assign the sleep function to the main menu with the UE
> firmware) AND the ability to snooze the alarm.

How do one assign the sleep function to the mute button?


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[steinbch]

ButC wrote:
> How do one assign the sleep function to the mute button?

I outlined the steps here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96256-Upgrade-SB-Radio-to-UE-Radio&p=721896&viewfull=1#post721896

If you aren't at least somewhat comfortable with using Terminal on OSX
or an FTP client in Windows, I'd steer clear of trying this out. It
took me an hour of playing around to figure it out..


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[steinbch]

Woke this morning to the alarm without a snooze menu again. May just
scrap my upgrade and revert back to Squeezebox.


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[HeadBanger]

steinbch wrote:
> Woke this morning to the alarm without a snooze menu again. May just
> scrap my upgrade and revert back to Squeezebox.

I think you mean 'upgrade' to the Squeezebox software ;-)


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[SenorRudy]

Thanks to those providing firmware links and assistance in this forum.
I upgraded my squeezebox to smart radio, and then reverted back to
squeezebox due to problems:

* Galaxy SIII could not find the radio on WiFi or with pin. The smart
radio did associate with my uesmartradio.com account.

* Deal breaker = the smart radio does not allow a custom or manual URL
for a streaming station. I sub to Acoustic Alternative streaming and
must be able to enter an IP:port to listen. uesmartradio.com has no
user controlled favorites as does mysqueezebox.com

* UE smart radio does not show album art for current playing song.
Squeezebox radio does....i like seeing album art (same as songs in
Pandora).

* UE smart radio screen has red ! icon over the battery icon, this does
not show on Squeezebox radio.

Is the firmware provided in this forum a early copy? Possibly
buggy/lacking features? Logitech should accept forum input and provide
"advanced" features by turning on a hidden "advanced" menu for those
that want it....a much better option than dumbing down your products and
loosing your existing technical users. I have always liked Logitech
products, but am finding what I see with the UE smart radio troubling.
Hopefully the "official" squeezebox > smart radio firmware update will
be something existing users will want to do!

Rudy, and I support this message.


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[Philippe911]

Hello eveybody,

I see with great interest it's possibe to make this upgrade.
But I'm no "IT Man" and I've no idea how to apply/follow your tips !

I had read that Logitech had intended to give public & clear
instructions regarding this ungrade,
and thus in "Mysqueezebox.com"

Is this project always ongoing ?

I also constate that it is now impossible to reach "Mysqueezebox.com".
Anybody knows why ?

Warm thanks in advance for your tips !

Philippe911


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[mikael_b]

Philippe911 wrote:
> Hello eveybody,
>
> I see with great interest it's possibe to make this upgrade.
> But I'm no "IT Man" and I've no idea how to apply/follow your tips !
>
> I had read that Logitech had intended to give public & clear
> instructions regarding this ungrade,
> and thus in "Mysqueezebox.com"
>
> Is this project always ongoing ?
>
> I also constate that it is now impossible to reach "Mysqueezebox.com".
> Anybody knows why ?
>
> Warm thanks in advance for your tips !
>
> Philippe911

Take warning from the fact that with a UE Radio you'd just have a
expensive brick if, sorry when, the server is down! If you stick with
the SB Radio you can still use LMS on a local computer or NAS and still
have acces to local music, internet radio, spotify, if you install
Triodes version, and so on. With UE Radio you're left up **** creek
lacking both paddle and canoe when the server goes down. Whether you
choose to believe that Logitech will make a more commited effort with
the UE server (and product line) than they've shown with the SBoxes is
up to you, I judge from what people do, not from what they say.
I use LMS and hope my setup will continue to work for years but I
donï¿œt expect any support from Logitech and I don't recommend their
products anymore. The Squeezeboxes were an excellent product line,
Logitechs handling of them, sadly, far from excellent.


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[CFS]

bluegaspode wrote:
> The old instructions on the Wiki for some reason didn't work for me
> (wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Custom.baby.version).
> Here is how I installed UE on my bathroom Radio (at your own Risk -
> Michael said right now there is now way back, didn't test that yet):
>
> If we think of new unexperienced users - getting started is dead easy
> now.
> For my bathroom, kids room and bedroom this UERadio would be all I need.
I'm not using the LMS, purely radio (and Spotify if it only would not
crash my SB Radio all the time), so I went on with this approach and
'updated' as described. Works great, I hoped the Spotify add-in would be
better than the one used in the 7.x firmware version. Shocked that after
trying Spotify, the SB Radio rebooted several times, so no improvement
here.

I do like the much cleaner interface, the Smartradio website is clean,
the straight forward easy-to-use iPhone app, but I had some problems
finding my Favorite radio stations: the menu is in Spanish?


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[Maus2012]

bluegaspode wrote:
> The old instructions on the Wiki for some reason didn't work for me
> (wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Custom.baby.version).
>
> Here is how I installed UE on my bathroom Radio (at your own Risk -
> Michael said right now there is now way back, didn't test that yet):
>
> > > >
- download firmware from
> http://update/firmware/10.0.0/baby_10.0.0_r16943.bin
- with winscp copy it to the Radio. Preferred to the folder /media
> on the Radio.
> For me this didn't work though, due to the limited space on the
> Radio. But a trick will do: Copy the file to the folder /dev. It's a
> different partition with enough room.
> Then ssh into the Radio and create a symlink from /media to the
> /dev
> >
Code:
--------------------
> >
> cd /media
> ln -s /dev/baby_10.0.0_r16943.bin baby_10.0.0_r16943.bin
>
--------------------
> >
>
- Now enter your Radios menu and go to Settings -> Advanced ->
> Update firmware. You will get an option for version 10.0.0
> > >
> So,das Update ha ich jetzt in media ordner kopiert mit WinSCP aber
> wo(wie) gebe ich jetzt Code ein ??
>
> cd /media
> ln -s /dev/baby_10.0.0_r16943.bin baby_10.0.0_r16943.bin


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First impressions :

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[bluegaspode]

I wouldn't be too sure about downgrading a real UE Radio. It might be
different Hardware and while the 10.0 firmware supports all hardware,
the 7.7 firmware might only support 'old' Radios.
Remember some months ago when some code leaked about a 'baby-mp2' (was
this the name) ? This code was about a changed light sensor.


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[bluegaspode]

It tries to unpack the file, so my best guess is that by not copying it
to dev, maybe there was not enough space left.


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[bluegaspode]

Welcome to the open source tweakers world.


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[bluegaspode]

Yes, you need to upload the 'old' firmware much like you did when
upgrading to UE


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[gilbreen]

OK. Makes sense. And just like last time, I will put it in the /dev
folder with a symlink to it in the /media folder.

Any harm in uploading the firmware into /dev even though it may be a
while before I potentially reinstall the 'old' firmware?


bluegaspode wrote:
> Yes, you need to upload the 'old' firmware much like you did when
> upgrading to UE


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[bluegaspode]

gilbreen wrote:
> OK. Makes sense. And just like last time, I will put it in the /dev
> folder with a symlink to it in the /media folder.
>
> Any harm in uploading the firmware into /dev even though it may be a
> while before I potentially reinstall the 'old' firmware?

I wouldn't know what harm it could do. Don't know for what the space
could be used otherwise (logs? settings? - nothing as big as the actual
firmware).


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[gilbreen]

Sounds good. My initial thought was to put it there in the event
Logitech pulls the firmware but I have since found that they list all
the old firmwares at:

http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/

So it looks like my fear of access to the old firmware may not be
warranted.

Looks like the latest firmware before going to the UE firmware is
7.7.2_r9663. I'll download it to my computer just in case to keep it
handy.

Thanks for all the great advice!

bluegaspode wrote:
> I wouldn't know what harm it could do. Don't know for what the space
> could be used otherwise (logs? settings? - nothing as big as the actual
> firmware).


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